GeoCensored
Censored by GeoCities; Stalked, persecuted, flamed, banned, threatened...and that's just the good news...

Welcome to my GeoCensored page. It is old as hell and probably out of date, but I think people may as well see it anyway. My web site has died a number of times by GeoCities' hand, both on its servers and off. The purpose of this page is to document these run-ins with the GeoCensors or their advertisers.

I've finally found Mark Zeman's GeoCensored page again, after it also was nuked by GeoCities on a competitor's server...This is a good description of GeoCities' policies and why they should be changed; anyone interested in censorship issues really should check it out. For a good laugh try HitlerCities -- now hosted on my server, where the GeoStapo can't touch it :)
 
Related links
(Geocities victims, unite!)
links tested 4/8/01


 
Victims
GeoCensored: A Modest Proposal
Article on Geo censorship and suggestions for improvement. Censored by GeoCities on a Canadian web provider
Geocities threatens to sue writer of Geo parody
for...
this humor page
GeoShitties
Geocities threatens to sue yet another for critical editorial
after they deleted a member page for alleged 'copyright infringement' of linking to someone else's site
The Black Background Campaign
censored by GC for expressing anti-Geo sentiments in private email
Anti-GeoCities Ring(dead)
Got deleted from Xoom by GeoCities
BlinkExchange
Parody of LinkExchange got deleted from GeoCities after LE's legal losers claimed trademark infringement
CrapCities
Censored for having a link to register for a cyber 'zine
GeoCities Boycott(dead)
GeoCities threatens legal actions against a 13 year old girl for a Geo boycott page
crapco.com ad-humour(dead)
Pokes fun at GeoCities' excessive advertising. Nuked for "certain legal considerations"


 
Webrings
GeoCensored 
Web Ring
for anyone who has / will be censored by GeoCities, and anyone opposed to this censorship
GeoPissed
for anyone pissed off at GeoCities
Anti-Geocities Ring(dead)
for anyone who hates GeoCities or has anti-GeoCities content
GeoDelete Web Ring(dead)
for anyone who has been deleted/suspended by Geocities, or had their non-Geo site nuked
The Phoenix Community
A community for sites that have left GeoCities for reasons including watermark, advertising and others
Boycott Geocities webring(dead)
For people who hate GeoCities

My ultimate goal is to see every Geocities victim linked to every other Geocities victim. If you know of a page link that belongs here, please tell me.


Website Parodies
HitlerCities
the 'fascist' growing community on the Web!
GeeCities
the largest goof on the web!
GeoShitties
Alex Sandell
SlumCities(dead)
The Largest NonCommunity on the Web!

GeoCriticism and
Anti-Geo editorials, and various relevant links
I Want A Website
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" geocities editorial
PAGED
Partnership Against Geocities' Evil Doing
AlterIcon
GeoCities news & opinions, stuff about watermark, and nonGeopartisan discussion boards
GeoStrike(dead)
Geo news, watermark, forum, graphics... all critical of GeoCities.
The Phoenix Community
A community for sites that have left GeoCities for reasons including watermark, advertising and others
CrapCities
Complains of censorship by the 'Homesteader Geostapo', urges folks to move out of Geo
 
Events are listed in chronological order, from most recent to oldest.
'Little stuff' has been moved to this separate page...

UPDATE: On July 24 this site was honored as cruel.com's Cruel Site of the Day :) 

UPDATE: Since posting the message below, I've had a number of visits from NETCOM administrative domains (including fit.netcomi.com and foxden.noc.netcom.net) as well as smartpatents.com, which I believe specializes in searching for and reporting patent/trademark infringement. Makes me wonder if Netcom received some sort of complaint about my homepage...seems to coincide closely with GeoCities' domain hits, doesn't it? 

June 9, 1998
Spider, spider, on the Net; Have you seen my homepage yet?
(GeoCities Lies, and more attempts at disinformation and media control?)

Well, Geocities's has. This isn't another censorship report necessarily, but damn close. I recently signed up with SuperStats, a website statistics service that tells you how many visits your site gets daily, who's visiting (domain names) and where they're coming from. I had it for a couple uneventful weeks watching the AOLers surf thru looking for the Bill Gates Pie page on Infoseek, and so on. But things got wierd on May 27th. What to my wondering eyes should appear, but hits from nevada.geocities.com--what the hell are THEY doing here? GeoCities is not an Internet provider like AOL or Earthlink; any visits from its domain are not customers or members, but employees of the company itself. So Geocities is visiting my NETCOM homepage as I sit and wonder why. Then it hits me: Criticism. I have a number of pages that criticise Geocities, including this one. As has been shown, GeoCities does actively seek out and destroy criticism whenever it can, probably to appear more popular (and therefore more appealing to potential advertisers.) My guess is, nevada.geocities.com is the server they use for these little witchhunts. I haven't heard anything from Geo or Netcom's webmaster yet, so either they couldn't find anything on the site worth suing me over or Netcom has decided to ignore bogus "one of your users is illegally defaming our company name, nuke their site immediately or you'll be sorry" threats directed at it. Still, this is the same company that claims on its member TOS agreement, "GeoCities does not actively monitor the content of [troublemakers'] pages". Guess that doesn't include servers it doesn't even own. 

PS Side note to Webmasters and server admins, I strongly encourage all of you to block the geocities.com domain (including [209.1.224.12] thru [209.1.224.15]) from accessing your pages via HTTP; this will affect GeoCities employees, not members (GC is not an ISP) and will help prevent them from harassing you or your members for the content of pages on your server. 

April 16, 1998
No Xoom for You
(blatant Soup Nazi reference here...)

This site has been deleted from Xoom, another free Web host, and the account locked out. (At about this time GeoCities blocked my email address from their mailservers; any mail I try to send to a GeoCities address returns something like this.) This comes within hours of the deletion of Zeman's GeoCensored page, which was itself removed within a mere 48 hours of its posting on another free server (shall remain anonymous), which prides itself on not censoring member pages for any reason. According to an email forwarded to me by Mark (from the no-censor server), GeoCities called them, threatened litigation, and proceeded to strong-arm the host of each and every person who joined a particular webring and get all their sites deleted, too. Including, of course, the former location of this site. This is the final straw, GeoCities. To go around forcing your ill will on people and their hosts out of nothing more than mere spite; to follow, stalk and harass people; to subject even innocent victims to a general spite and hatred you hold to a select few who they dare associate themselves with, this is unacceptable and completely beyond reproach. Rest assured, people will hear about your numerous attempts to subvert criticism and disinform the public. If not via Web pages like this one, newsgroups, mailing lists (like pissedOff's), and webrings, then by print publications, newspapers and radio shows. Eric 'Mancow' Mueller, morning radio host for the 'Free Speech Radio Network', will hopefully turn a curious ear to such abuses, and if so, this information may even be broadcast from coast to coast on the show. GeoCities, if you are reading this, I encourage you to plan your next move carefully in this game. The pen is and will continue to be mightier than the sword, and the truth has a way of spreading beyond your wildest fears. Please keep this in mind before attempting to put another notch in my belt. 

 "With the first link, a chain is forged.  The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."



 Thurs., Feb. 04, 1998: Moved out of GeoCities

Tuesday, February 03, 1998
<demonic voice> Get OUT!! </demonic voice>

Now, I'm no mind reader, but I believe the message in the following emails is clear: You know where the door is, you know damn well how to use it, why not demonstrate this skill for us. As is evident in their messages, GeoCities obviously prides itself on honesty. Yet they so quickly trash any information that they do not want the average Joe Schmoe to hear, why? We do not know, and perhaps never will. But when the mass media does what GeoCities does, it's called propaganda. Enjoy this page, as it is critical of GC's practises but (hopefully) immune to their ever-reaching and censorious hands on this server. Who knows, maybe they will leave it be, if they suddenly realize that this page will not severely hurt them, and it is the Potemkin's Villiage nature of the entire pruned-and-culled GeoCities 'community' that will ultimately do them much more harm than this Web text document could ever hope to. Maybe they will leave it alone for no other reason than to say they left it alone. But at any rate, what follows are the email messages from GC's Senior Editor:

     
    Subject: Can Geo take the heat?
    Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:54:43 +0000
    From: news@[NoSpamBots]geocities.com (news)
    Organization: GeoCities
    To: bgip@ix.[NoSpamBots].netcom.com
    Bill,

    I think your Snickers page is hilarious. The "Tickle Me Loundy"
    mention is priceless.

    I've always felt that if we are forthright in our dealing with
    people, that we can take any reasonable and polite criticism. I've
    always argued on the side of leaving alone sites that were critical
    of Geo practices. I think that your Snickers site is a healthy and
    entertaining part of the broader Geo community.

    But (there had to be a "but), you and I may start to differ when it
    comes to actively sabotaging Geo programs.

    When you signed up for a free home page at GeoCities, you, in effect,
    signed a social contract. We provide you with free Web space and
    tools to build and improve it. In return, we retain the right to sell
    targetted advertising, using your content to draw users.

    We have never been deceptive about this arrangement and have been
    very aboveboard about the fact that Geo is still on the wrong side
    of breaking even. If we cannot become profitable, your site and
    those of every GeoCitizen will disappear entirely. This will be the
    case with every company offering free Web sites.

    While we would like you to support our efforts, it may well be that
    GeoCities is not for you. If that is your choice, there will be no
    hard feelings.

    I look forward to hearing from you.

    (Name withheld)

    Senior Editor, Community Manager                     Read the A-List
    http://www.geocities.com/   http://www.geocities.com/features/alist/

    My Reply...

    > From:          bgip@ix[.NoSpamBots]netcom.com
    > Date:          Tue, 03 Feb 1998 17:29:37 -0600
    > To:            news@[NoSpamBots]geocities.com
    > Subject:       Re: Can Geo take the heat?

    > I am willing to add Geoguides to each page, and plan to do so in the near
    > future. (Before I do, can you tell me, is it really necessary I add it to
    > the 'nope' pages under the fake warez page? That means up to 15KB load
    > time for 5 bytes of text; I'd rather not put them here, but will if
    > necessary). The Geoguides can, if necessary make an appearance on every
    > page. They are not nearly as bad as the popup ads. But if what you are
    > really asking is that I remove links to the (intended as humor more than
    > anything else) GeoPop Tribute, this is something I have no intention of
    > doing. If this is necessary to continue my account here, I guess
    > GeoCities really isn't for me; say the word and I will move out for good
    > and leave you in peace. But GeoCities is truly a great place, full of
    > many fond memories, and hate to see all of it destroyed.

    > bill
    > http://members.xoom.com/snicker1
    > snicker_page@geocities.com

    (Name Withheld)'s reply to my reply...

     Subject: Re: Can Geo take the heat?
    Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:51:43 +0000
    From: news@[NoSpamBots]geocities.com (news)
    Organization: GeoCities
    To: bgip@ix.[NoSpamBots].netcom.com
     

    Bill,

    Although that would be nice, I'm not asking you to add the GeoGuide
    to each page. That's your call. The GeoGuide is not mandatory.

    Believe me, I "get" the humor part of your site. As I mentioned, the
    "Tickle Me Loundy" had me in stitches. I'm smiling just thinking
    about it. What I am asking is that you take what lies underneath the
    humor down a notch.

    The overt instruction on how to to subvert Geo ads crosses the line
    as do a few other things that you've put on the page. Rather than act
    as an editor and tell you, point by point, what to put on your page,
    I'm addressing the broader issue of your deciding if you want to be
    a part of this community or assist in tearing it down.

    Technical point: There are only two acceptable ways to suppress
    GeoPops on a given page. Either install a GeoGuide or become a
    GeoPlus member.
     


Thursday, January 29, 1998

With a sense of humour this dry, GeoCities will never need to worry about flood insurance. About a week ago Bill posted a humorous page he'd written, in the style of Dave Barry and humorists of like type, that served as a 'tribute' to the annoying GeoPop advertisements that have plagued GeoCities of late. This page contained an amusing portrayal of the average surfer's reaction to these popup ads, continued with a more serious look at how they can affect your computer (including screenshots of application errors the ads can contribute to and graphs showing memory and resource consumption by the ad windows), and ended with several methods of getting rid of these popups, both on your browser (disabling Javascript) and on your GeoCities-hosted pages (Put on a Geoguide, an alternate form of advertising that appears at the top of the page, as well as another 'cheater' method that will not be repeated here.) Today we got the following message from the meanies at GeoCities. It appears we have broken the 13th Commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Tell Surfers The Truth If It May Adversely Effect Geocities' Profit Margin"... 

Subject: SiliconValley/Lakes5397
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:14:36 -0800
From: GeoCities Community Response Team <guidelines@[NoSpamBots]geocities.com>
Organization: GeoCities
To: bgip@ix.[NoSpamBots].netcom.com
 

    Dear Community Member,

    Thank you for your feedback regarding the GeoPops.  As
    you are aware we are using new forms of advertising.  Right from the
    beginning of GeoCities we have tried to provide the best free services
    available on the web.  Our business model has always been to offer free
    email and home pages, to group them by interest (neighborhoods), and to
    sell targeted advertising into each neighborhood.  This allows us to offer
    more free services and is not changing.  However, we realize that we couldn't
    do all that we do without the support of our homesteaders, our visitors,
    and our advertisers.

    The task at hand is to position advertising on GeoCities in a way that
    is attractive to a visitor, the Homesteader, and the advertiser
    without substantially affecting the design or download time of web
    pages.

    Based on feedback like yours we have tested a variety of
    advertising options including pop-ups (the GeoPop), and the
    interstitial (the GeoStitial).  Most people prefer the pop-up, finding
    it less intrusive. Others have requested a new, full banner GeoGuide
    which resides on the home page in place of an interstitial or pop-up.
    In response to this request we will be launched a  new GeoGuide in
    December, which when placed at the top of the page will preclude a
    GeoStitial or GeoPop.   Thatís right, every page with a GeoGuide will
    not get an interstitial or pop-up ad. Homesteaders can also win cool
    prizes.

    You can stop all Pop-up and GeoStitial ads from appearing on your
    pages by installing the GeoGuide.  Please go to this address for more
    information and instructions:

    http://www.geocities.com/members/tools/geoguide

    In order for GeoCities to continue to provide free web pages, email,
    tech support and all of our other  services to our members, it is
    necessary for us to  sell advertising on our site. We hope that you
    will support GeoCities in its efforts to continue to provide our
    services to you free of charge.

    Our guidelines and Members Terms of Service (TOS) have been carefully
    crafted to promote the free flowing exchange of ideas about your
    interests, activities, and hobbies, and at the same time maintain standards
    consistent with the Internet community and the societies of the world at large.

    We appreciate your support and participation with GeoCities, however,
    some of your files were inconsistent with our current guidelines or TOS and
    have been deleted.  Please do not repost them.

    We encourage you to review the guidelines and TOS at:
    http://www.geocities.com/members/guidelines/

    Thank you,

    GeoCities Community Response Team
    www.geocities.com

The page is still availible here, safely out of reach of those who wish to steal the voices of the public (or so we hope). 

Saturday, September 20

GeoCities has deleted this entire site (68 HTML pages and hundreds of other files) for a page I wrote explaining I was boycotting SurplusDirect (a GeoCities advertiser) for spamming. I got an email from GeoCities saying the accusation was "defamatory" and my site has been suspended, and to work it out privately with the company (who never got back to me)... GeoCities did not even bother to ask SD about their activities before killing my site; even though several copies of actual spam and numerous failed 'unsubscribe' requests were posted to prove that the advertiser was indeed spamming. 

Original boycott page...

Original mail from GeoCensors :

Subject: SiliconValley/Lakes5397
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:42:38 -0700
From: abuse@[NoSpamBots]geocities.com (Abuse)
Organization: GeoCities
To: bgip@ix.[NoSpamBots].netcom.com
 
    Dear Community Member,

    We received a complaint regarding your GeoCities homepage violating the
    Homepage Content Guidelines.  While investigating it, we did find some
    content that may arguably be considered defamatory.  Specifically,
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5397/boycott.html

    We have temporarily suspended your homepage for those violations.
    Please contact SurplusDirect and try to work this situation out with
    them:  web@surplus.direct.com
    Please contact us if you have any questions or comments.

    We encourage you to review the guidelines at:
    http://www.geocities.com/members/info/guidelines.html

    Thank you,

    GeoCities Community Response Team
    www.geocities.com
     

 


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